Comments on: Google and 301 Permanent Redirects – all you wanted to know and were afraid to ask http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html Canadian views on the online business world Tue, 25 May 2010 00:22:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Barry Welford http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-23 Barry Welford Thu, 06 Mar 2008 18:00:40 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-23 If I'm understanding correctly, Neil, you don't need to maintain the sitemap file on the website that has been 301'd to the new website. Nor do you need to leave any web pages there. You only need to put the right .htaccess file there and that covers everything. If I’m understanding correctly, Neil, you don’t need to maintain the sitemap file on the website that has been 301′d to the new website. Nor do you need to leave any web pages there. You only need to put the right .htaccess file there and that covers everything.

]]> By: Neil Matthews http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-22 Neil Matthews Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:51:56 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-22 Nice piece, I had a bit of a problem with my sitemap from one site which was 301 to another site. I showed a bag load of errors as the pages could not be found on the site, and Google are suggesting I edit my sitemap to permananely point the files to my new site. Nice piece, I had a bit of a problem with my sitemap from one site which was 301 to another site.

I showed a bag load of errors as the pages could not be found on the site, and Google are suggesting I edit my sitemap to permananely point the files to my new site.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-21 Barry Welford Thu, 06 Mar 2008 14:21:22 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-21 If the older pages are higher ranked, Ralph, you have a problem. The effect of the 301 redirect should be to make the newer ones the only ones that normally appear in any rankings. I'm doing some further work on what is happening with my older web pages and will report on this in the future. If the older pages are higher ranked, Ralph, you have a problem. The effect of the 301 redirect should be to make the newer ones the only ones that normally appear in any rankings. I’m doing some further work on what is happening with my older web pages and will report on this in the future.

]]> By: Raphael http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-20 Raphael Thu, 06 Mar 2008 11:08:38 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-20 Same for me, exactly as you said : only "relevant" pages (with a couple of backlinks) remain indexed with an older cached version. Sometimes the old pages are higher ranked; but I'm wondering how Google handles 2 pages with the same content? Same for me, exactly as you said : only “relevant” pages (with a couple of backlinks) remain indexed with an older cached version. Sometimes the old pages are higher ranked; but I’m wondering how Google handles 2 pages with the same content?

]]> By: Barry Welford http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-17 Barry Welford Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:56:04 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-17 Bert, that's excellent confirmation of how Google seems to handle this. Once indexed the old web pages stay there. Usually they will be 'drowned out' by other web pages that are more relevant, since these old ones presumably have zero PageRank since this is all transferred to the new equivalent web page. Hopefully your new web pages are always higher ranked than the old equivalent web pages. Bert, that’s excellent confirmation of how Google seems to handle this. Once indexed the old web pages stay there. Usually they will be ‘drowned out’ by other web pages that are more relevant, since these old ones presumably have zero PageRank since this is all transferred to the new equivalent web page. Hopefully your new web pages are always higher ranked than the old equivalent web pages.

]]> By: Bert http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-16 Bert Wed, 05 Mar 2008 16:55:50 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-16 Barry - I have a site with many 301 redirects implemented last year. Google prefers the new urls now but for some queries / pages the old url still keeps popping up. This happens mostly with popular pages who received many backlinks in the past. I can even still see them in Webmaster Central. Maybe Google has trouble 'letting go' ;). It doesn't really matter to me, 'cause the results are the same. Barry – I have a site with many 301 redirects implemented last year. Google prefers the new urls now but for some queries / pages the old url still keeps popping up. This happens mostly with popular pages who received many backlinks in the past. I can even still see them in Webmaster Central. Maybe Google has trouble ‘letting go’ ;) . It doesn’t really matter to me, ’cause the results are the same.

]]> By: Barry Welford http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-10 Barry Welford Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:32:25 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-10 That's an interesting conjecture, Derek. At present I'm just watching how things develop, but I'll keep that in mind. That’s an interesting conjecture, Derek. At present I’m just watching how things develop, but I’ll keep that in mind.

]]> By: Derek http://www.otherbb.com/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html/comment-page-1#comment-9 Derek Mon, 03 Mar 2008 18:28:39 +0000 http://www.strategicmarketingmontreal.ca/otherbb/2008/03/google-and-301-permanent-redirects-all-you-wanted-to-know-and-were-afraid-to-ask.html#comment-9 Barry - I have been wondering if this may have something to do with how Google Blog Indexing and Google Indexing relate to one another - and then how Google determines what to show for various keyword queries. I do not have any confirmed information on this yet, but it originally came to my attention while inadvertently playing with a robots.txt file used for a (my) blog. Barry – I have been wondering if this may have something to do with how Google Blog Indexing and Google Indexing relate to one another – and then how Google determines what to show for various keyword queries.

I do not have any confirmed information on this yet, but it originally came to my attention while inadvertently playing with a robots.txt file used for a (my) blog.

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